Moral Dilema....What would you have done?
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Started on 2005-03-20
Moral Dilema....What would you have done?
From: Scott (scott_katytalbot@comcast.net) |
Date: 2005-03-20 15:37:54 UTC
Yesterday we were off boxing in Red Rocks Park just west of Denver.
As I was waiting to head to the next box I noticed a gentleman
parked in a handicap spot next to us that looked like he had some
sort of disability that required him to walk with a cane, if you can
call it walking (if you know what I mean). He did get back in his
car and just sat there. A few minutes later another car pulled up
next to him on the other side and a guy jumped out with a couple of
plastic grocery bags. He threw one in his back seat and the other
he took with him as he jumped into the passanger seat of the car
between us. I saw him pull a sandwich bag out of the grocery bag
stuffed with what looked very much like marijuana. A few moments
later he jumped out, opened the back door of the car, pulled up the
back seat cushion, tossed in the bag, put the seat back down, and
got back in the front. I am 99% sure that this was a drug deal but
I froze. I even had a cell phone that I could have called the
cops. I easily could have written down the license plate numbers
but did not. I was there with my wife and two young kids and was
not sure what to do. So my question to you is....What would you
have done?
Ramdelt
Re: Moral Dilema....What would you have done?
From: speedsquare_lbxr (ruhlette@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-03-20 16:07:50 UTC
Given all the details you mention, doing nothing at that moment was probably the best
option. Now that you are away from the location, I would report it to authorities for them
to monitor future transactions.
A notice placed in clues to caution others would be nice.
speedsquare
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
>
> Yesterday we were off boxing in Red Rocks Park just west of Denver.
Re: Moral Dilema....What would you have done?
From: rscarpen (letterboxing@atlasquest.com) |
Date: 2005-03-21 01:15:24 UTC
> So my question to you is....What would you
> have done?
Take lots of notes then write a bestbelling book about the adventure! =)
-- Ryan
Re: [LbNA] Moral Dilema....What would you have done?
From: cd ybarra (cd_y@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-03-20 18:32:12 UTC-08:00
Perhaps this apparently disabled gentlman lives in a state where medical marijuana is not available and he needs to make illegal transactions in order to maintain a pain free state..or induce hunger or whatever he needs that medical marijuana for..who knows..sounds benign enough though...c-bear...
Scott wrote:
Yesterday we were off boxing in Red Rocks Park just west of Denver.
As I was waiting to head to the next box I noticed a gentleman
parked in a handicap spot next to us that looked like he had some
sort of disability that required him to walk with a cane, if you can
call it walking (if you know what I mean). He did get back in his
car and just sat there. A few minutes later another car pulled up
next to him on the other side and a guy jumped out with a couple of
plastic grocery bags. He threw one in his back seat and the other
he took with him as he jumped into the passanger seat of the car
between us. I saw him pull a sandwich bag out of the grocery bag
stuffed with what looked very much like marijuana. A few moments
later he jumped out, opened the back door of the car, pulled up the
back seat cushion, tossed in the bag, put the seat back down, and
got back in the front. I am 99% sure that this was a drug deal but
I froze. I even had a cell phone that I could have called the
cops. I easily could have written down the license plate numbers
but did not. I was there with my wife and two young kids and was
not sure what to do. So my question to you is....What would you
have done?
Ramdelt
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Scott
Yesterday we were off boxing in Red Rocks Park just west of Denver.
As I was waiting to head to the next box I noticed a gentleman
parked in a handicap spot next to us that looked like he had some
sort of disability that required him to walk with a cane, if you can
call it walking (if you know what I mean). He did get back in his
car and just sat there. A few minutes later another car pulled up
next to him on the other side and a guy jumped out with a couple of
plastic grocery bags. He threw one in his back seat and the other
he took with him as he jumped into the passanger seat of the car
between us. I saw him pull a sandwich bag out of the grocery bag
stuffed with what looked very much like marijuana. A few moments
later he jumped out, opened the back door of the car, pulled up the
back seat cushion, tossed in the bag, put the seat back down, and
got back in the front. I am 99% sure that this was a drug deal but
I froze. I even had a cell phone that I could have called the
cops. I easily could have written down the license plate numbers
but did not. I was there with my wife and two young kids and was
not sure what to do. So my question to you is....What would you
have done?
Ramdelt
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Re: Moral Dilema....What would you have done?
From: texasluvbug1 (texasluvbug@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2005-03-21 03:20:16 UTC
I think that I would have taken down all the info and when I was away
from the area I would call and report it. I have small children and
who is to say that this person might one day be responsible for my
children or other children to get their hands on drugs. Also, whose
to say that this guy won't drive under the influence and possibly
kill or terribly maime a you or a member of your family. I know I
would have had to call the info in after I left the area.
Thanks,
Texas Luvbug P4F8
>From: "speedsquare_lbxr"
usa@yahoogroups.com >To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com >Subject:
[LbNA] Re: Moral Dilema....What would you have done? >Date: Sun, 20
Mar 2005 16:07:50 -0000 > > >Given all the details you mention, doing
nothing at that moment was probably the best >option. Now that you
are away from the location, I would report it to authorities for them
>to monitor future transactions. > >A notice placed in clues to
caution others would be nice. > >speedsquare > >--- In letterbox-
usa@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
Yesterday we were off boxing in Red Rocks Park just west of Denver. >
> >
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--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
wrote:
>
> Yesterday we were off boxing in Red Rocks Park just west of
Denver.
> As I was waiting to head to the next box I noticed a gentleman
> parked in a handicap spot next to us that looked like he had some
> sort of disability that required him to walk with a cane, if you
can
> call it walking (if you know what I mean). He did get back in his
> car and just sat there. A few minutes later another car pulled up
> next to him on the other side and a guy jumped out with a couple of
> plastic grocery bags. He threw one in his back seat and the other
> he took with him as he jumped into the passanger seat of the car
> between us. I saw him pull a sandwich bag out of the grocery bag
> stuffed with what looked very much like marijuana. A few moments
> later he jumped out, opened the back door of the car, pulled up the
> back seat cushion, tossed in the bag, put the seat back down, and
> got back in the front. I am 99% sure that this was a drug deal but
> I froze. I even had a cell phone that I could have called the
> cops. I easily could have written down the license plate numbers
> but did not. I was there with my wife and two young kids and was
> not sure what to do. So my question to you is....What would you
> have done?
>
> Ramdelt
Re: [LbNA] Moral Dilema....What would you have done?
From: Stephanie Bryant (mortaine@gmail.com) |
Date: 2005-03-20 21:23:49 UTC-08:00
Where do you live?
I live in Santa Cruz, CA. A pot deal is nothing. Heck, our county
faced down the DEA over our right to not enforce marijuana possession
laws.
We call it in when we see people smoking something other than pot--
like crack, for example (we saw that one in the parking lot before
work.... there's a middle school 2 blocks away). But pot? No way.
Especially not if the buyer was handicapped-- it's almost certainly
medicinal.
I know Colorado has a mix of conservative and liberal idealogies, but
if I'm not mistaken, it's very much a "live and let live" kind of
culture. Unless this deal was going on in front of a school, I'd
personally just ignore it. Or make a joke with my husband. Or walk
away, as it's none of my business.
Since your kids were there, this does pose the perfect opportunity to
talk to them about drugs, however, and why people do them, if they're
old enough to even understand that anything odd had happened.
--Stephanie
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:37:54 -0000, Scott wrote:
>
> Yesterday we were off boxing in Red Rocks Park just west of Denver.
...
>I am 99% sure that this was a drug deal but
> I froze. I even had a cell phone that I could have called the
> cops. I easily could have written down the license plate numbers
> but did not. I was there with my wife and two young kids and was
> not sure what to do. So my question to you is....What would you
> have done?
--
Stephanie Bryant
mortaine@gmail.com
http://www.mortaine.com
I live in Santa Cruz, CA. A pot deal is nothing. Heck, our county
faced down the DEA over our right to not enforce marijuana possession
laws.
We call it in when we see people smoking something other than pot--
like crack, for example (we saw that one in the parking lot before
work.... there's a middle school 2 blocks away). But pot? No way.
Especially not if the buyer was handicapped-- it's almost certainly
medicinal.
I know Colorado has a mix of conservative and liberal idealogies, but
if I'm not mistaken, it's very much a "live and let live" kind of
culture. Unless this deal was going on in front of a school, I'd
personally just ignore it. Or make a joke with my husband. Or walk
away, as it's none of my business.
Since your kids were there, this does pose the perfect opportunity to
talk to them about drugs, however, and why people do them, if they're
old enough to even understand that anything odd had happened.
--Stephanie
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:37:54 -0000, Scott
>
> Yesterday we were off boxing in Red Rocks Park just west of Denver.
...
>I am 99% sure that this was a drug deal but
> I froze. I even had a cell phone that I could have called the
> cops. I easily could have written down the license plate numbers
> but did not. I was there with my wife and two young kids and was
> not sure what to do. So my question to you is....What would you
> have done?
--
Stephanie Bryant
mortaine@gmail.com
http://www.mortaine.com
Re: Moral Dilema....What would you have done?
From: birder579 (birder579@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-03-21 22:24:14 UTC
You cannot put yourself or your family at risk by doing anything
while they are in view. That is the job for the cops. You can be
the eyes and ears for the cops. I would write down all your
observations and license plate numbers. When you are away from the
area, call it in and let the police do their job.
The Bird Stamper
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
>
> Yesterday we were off boxing in Red Rocks Park just west of
Denver.
>
I was there with my wife and two young kids and was
> not sure what to do. So my question to you is....What would you
> have done?
>
> Ramdelt
Re: Moral Dilema....What would you have done?
From: mr_sangfroid (mr_sangfroid@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-03-22 20:00:15 UTC
Since the question has been posed "what would you have done?" and not
"what should I have done?" I will answer it as such: "I" would have
examined their cars for political bumper stickers. If their political
viewpoints differed from mine, I would have called the cops. If their
political viewpoints were the same as mine, I would have done nothing
(except leave). If I couldn't tell what their political views were at
all I would have done nothing (unless I distinctly heard country music
emanating from their cars, at which point I would call the cops;
because I can't stand country music). Before anyone chooses to be
offended, Note that I did not state my political viewpoints, and
remember the wording of the question.
--->cheers,
---------->sangfroid
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
wrote:
>
> Yesterday we were off boxing in Red Rocks Park just west of Denver.
> As I was waiting to head to the next box I noticed a gentleman
> parked in a handicap spot next to us that looked like he had some
> sort of disability that required him to walk with a cane, if you can
> call it walking (if you know what I mean). He did get back in his
> car and just sat there. A few minutes later another car pulled up
> next to him on the other side and a guy jumped out with a couple of
> plastic grocery bags. He threw one in his back seat and the other
> he took with him as he jumped into the passanger seat of the car
> between us. I saw him pull a sandwich bag out of the grocery bag
> stuffed with what looked very much like marijuana. A few moments
> later he jumped out, opened the back door of the car, pulled up the
> back seat cushion, tossed in the bag, put the seat back down, and
> got back in the front. I am 99% sure that this was a drug deal but
> I froze. I even had a cell phone that I could have called the
> cops. I easily could have written down the license plate numbers
> but did not. I was there with my wife and two young kids and was
> not sure what to do. So my question to you is....What would you
> have done?
>
> Ramdelt
Re: [LbNA] Re: Moral Dilema....What would you have done?
From: (CountdownTo55@aol.com) |
Date: 2005-03-22 15:49:07 UTC-05:00
In a message dated 3/22/2005 2:06:29 PM Central Standard Time,
mr_sangfroid@yahoo.com writes:
Since the question has been posed "what would you have done?" and not
"what should I have done?" I will answer it as such: "I" would have
examined their cars for political bumper stickers. If their political
viewpoints differed from mine, I would have called the cops. If their
political viewpoints were the same as mine, I would have done nothing
(except leave). If I couldn't tell what their political views were at
all I would have done nothing (unless I distinctly heard country music
emanating from their cars, at which point I would call the cops;
because I can't stand country music). Before anyone chooses to be
offended, Note that I did not state my political viewpoints, and
remember the wording of the question.
--->cheers,
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
I like this line of thinking. Based on the short time I've come to be
acquainted with American culture, I could set up a system of that sort for myself.
If they were Cubs fans, I'd leave 'em alone. If they were Sox fans, I'd call
da cops.
If they were Bears fans, I'd leave 'em alone. If they were Packers fans, I'd
call da cops.
If they were drivin' old chevy junks, I'd leave 'em alone. Hummers? I'd
call da cops. Pick-up truck? Leave 'em alone. Lexus? Call da cops.
If they had a bumper sticker on a pickup truck proclaiming "My coondawg is
smarter than your honour student," I'd definitely leave 'em alone. Because
there's a chance they've got a conveniently reachable gun rack in that there
pickup.
But no matter where I drew my personal line, if they were fellow boxers, I'd
make dang sure to get that exchange before the squads show up. That's
something I'd be sure to do.
Pippi
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Letterboxing-OopsGangClues
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mr_sangfroid@yahoo.com writes:
Since the question has been posed "what would you have done?" and not
"what should I have done?" I will answer it as such: "I" would have
examined their cars for political bumper stickers. If their political
viewpoints differed from mine, I would have called the cops. If their
political viewpoints were the same as mine, I would have done nothing
(except leave). If I couldn't tell what their political views were at
all I would have done nothing (unless I distinctly heard country music
emanating from their cars, at which point I would call the cops;
because I can't stand country music). Before anyone chooses to be
offended, Note that I did not state my political viewpoints, and
remember the wording of the question.
--->cheers,
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
I like this line of thinking. Based on the short time I've come to be
acquainted with American culture, I could set up a system of that sort for myself.
If they were Cubs fans, I'd leave 'em alone. If they were Sox fans, I'd call
da cops.
If they were Bears fans, I'd leave 'em alone. If they were Packers fans, I'd
call da cops.
If they were drivin' old chevy junks, I'd leave 'em alone. Hummers? I'd
call da cops. Pick-up truck? Leave 'em alone. Lexus? Call da cops.
If they had a bumper sticker on a pickup truck proclaiming "My coondawg is
smarter than your honour student," I'd definitely leave 'em alone. Because
there's a chance they've got a conveniently reachable gun rack in that there
pickup.
But no matter where I drew my personal line, if they were fellow boxers, I'd
make dang sure to get that exchange before the squads show up. That's
something I'd be sure to do.
Pippi
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Letterboxing-OopsGangClues
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